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Post by Paul Boudreau on Sept 12, 2006 23:22:24 GMT -4
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Post by Hawkes on Sept 13, 2006 1:06:14 GMT -4
Do you think you really need that much fender? There's a lot of TJ's and Yj's out there with bent fenders from tight trails that aren't extended, and most end up bending the body behind the fender. If you welded your down tube to the rock rail it would add more support and probably not bend the body when you hit something, which I think you will. Paul
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Post by Creepy on Sept 13, 2006 2:54:11 GMT -4
you are relying on the sheetmetal sidewall of the fender to act as a mount for those things. the first thing they rub on will cave in the side of the fender. post pics please. at least tie it into the rocker, and u should have something up under the sheetmetal to catch the little peices welded to the fender. the welding looks good enough for that kind of stuff, but the design is a pooper.
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Post by Paul Boudreau on Sept 13, 2006 7:57:40 GMT -4
the sheet metal is healty and the inner fender wich will be welded to the fender will act as more structure the tube itself is not that thick its around 1/8 so i do expect to bend them at some point (will make me something to do and a good excuse to spend a few night in the garage) ill post pics when i do bend one
the reason why they are so wide is to cover the tires that stick out to be on the good side of the law
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Post by Dr. Burkeee on Sept 13, 2006 9:26:08 GMT -4
What did you use to bend the tubes? Not kinked like the PA pipe bender, looks more like an exhaust tubing bend.
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Post by Paul Boudreau on Sept 13, 2006 9:53:24 GMT -4
What did you use to bend the tubes? Not kinked like the PA pipe bender, looks more like an exhaust tubing bend. you got it exhaust pipe bender make nice bend
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Post by Creepy on Sept 13, 2006 11:41:53 GMT -4
What did you use to bend the tubes? Not kinked like the PA pipe bender, looks more like an exhaust tubing bend. look at the inside of the bends. they are crushed worse than a pa bender. much worse. exaust tube welded to sheetmetal - i'd love to see those in action on some rocks. they are good mudflaps and might keep the alders away. they 'look' ok tho, if that's what you are after. they will not last at all wheelin them and using them for protection. you really really should tie into the rockerskid at the very least, its right there.
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Post by Dr. Burkeee on Sept 13, 2006 12:02:25 GMT -4
look at the inside of the bends. they are crushed worse than a pa bender. much worse. Yeah, thats my point. Not just kinked, crushed. Looks nice on the opposite side tho ;D What wall thickness tube is that?
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Post by yotaman on Sept 13, 2006 13:36:49 GMT -4
too wide, not enough support, exhaust tubing?
I agree with what Jan said.....first rock ding there goes your fender. Do your tires actually stick out that far in the first place? Seems like you'd have enough coverage stock rather then adding another 6"
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Post by Big G on Sept 13, 2006 13:49:36 GMT -4
Am I the only one that noticed the smiley face on the before last pic? ;D
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Post by JeepsterJay on Sept 13, 2006 23:31:11 GMT -4
Yeah I have to agree with everyone else a PA bender would have done a much better job.
I bent up some 1.66 .100 wall tubing last weekend with a 12 ton PA bender and it did an awesome job, way better bends than I see in the above pics.
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Post by Paul Boudreau on Sept 13, 2006 23:45:30 GMT -4
whats wrong whit those bend i find them clean enuf and those are gone a do just fine around here i live in nb not on the rubicon trails and they are more solid then a normal fender plus they cover the tire so it make me legal and that all that matter to me anybody cab bolt on 220 extended plastic flare ... i chose to make my own
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Post by Creepy on Sept 14, 2006 2:40:18 GMT -4
what's wrong with the bends? it is a matter of usage i guess.
you seem to be happy that it has a nice smooth outside edge that looks nice to the untrained eye.
if it was tube/pipe that had to protect from rocks or heavy wheeling, the cross section of the pipe/tube would matter. that bender u used crushed the shit out of the tube, substantially reducing it's strength. coupled with the lack of supporting members behind the sheetmetal fender - it is a very weak design.
u want to paint 'em up and go cruisin sure, the cops won't get u for tires sticking out. get that rig out on a hard trail and those fenders are going to self-destruct. they will push thru alders, but one bang on a rock and they are toast
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Post by J*E*E*P on Sept 14, 2006 17:04:21 GMT -4
Paul, some very experienced metal fab and wheeling people are trying to give you some sound advice. Ya, it will su*k to redo them but like you said "they are a lot of work" so build them to last the first time round. I think (correct me if I'm wrong)Jeffs are a good example.
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Post by Paul Boudreau on Sept 14, 2006 18:51:08 GMT -4
they will work for me and thats all that matter to me, they suit my need for now wich are covering my tire that stick out about 7 inch
they woul probably work for half of the club too, its not evrybody that rubs the tree
bottom line they are made to cover the tire and will be equal to superior strenght to the stock fender
paul(stuborn and himself)
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