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Post by 98TJ on Mar 9, 2009 13:35:46 GMT -4
These are all great ideas.............
Bruce
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Post by Truro Offroad on Mar 9, 2009 13:36:16 GMT -4
Oh I agree..and i wish it could be moved ahead a day, I am sure it won't be this year, but hoping maybe next year its on the weekend..
Would like to see a 1 day pass too..cause thats all I might be able to do this year..have to wait and see
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Post by Creepy on Mar 9, 2009 13:54:12 GMT -4
i have another train of thought on the same topic.
we want to attract younger people into Jeeping, first time Jeep owners, into our fold. this gets them "trained" on responsible ownership and plants seeds for the future as organizers or volunteers or just as responsible owners.
we want to spread the love, so to speak.
Now these same young Jeep owners are the ones who don't yet have that cushy gov't job, can't afford that Friday without pay, are at the bottom of some senority list and simply CAN't get the day off, or outright can't afford a two day pass because they just bought a house and had a baby. or whatever. you get the point.
The people we want most to attract to keep the future going are the ones who are feeling the brunt of the exclusion.
i'm just putting a different angle on what we are talking about, but in that light, we are losing more than just participants, we are losing FUTURE participants by not allowing a 1 day pass.
but we can't just dump this on our organizers, we need to help and come up with a workable plan that doesn't introduce a bunch of extra work that burns them out.
Lets hear some ideas on the logistics of a one day pass.
heard some good ones: 1. color coded braclet for each day 2. buy your own t-shirt at a table 3. trail lunch might be tough to deal with on per-day basis. 4. breakfast - shouldn't matter? they cook it up by the size of the line.
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Post by shadow on Mar 9, 2009 14:04:11 GMT -4
Great stuff, but how come this weekend thing was not put on any of the satisfaction surveys last year? ? These types of things/suggestions/issues are why they are given to everyone in the first place. The one day thing has certainly been discussed the last couple years, but it all takes volunteers to be in charge of registration etc. Being that the people who do this are volunteers then that is more time that they need to put in. When they get back from their Friday run just wanting to go get a shower and eat are they expected to head down to the little shed and wait for people to show up? It is just like a run...30 people will swear they are coming until that day when only 6 people show up. All good stuff, but unless you want to pay someone to take care of things it is difficult, as the volunteers are paying their money to go there and enjoy the weekend as well. They only volunteer because they want to have a successful event and ensure that we continue to have them each year.
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Post by 98TJ on Mar 9, 2009 14:04:49 GMT -4
If elected {political promise} Valley Co-chair , after talking to Terry,Kevin and a few others..........
I've been on the Jam committee for the last five years
This could be the year for CHANGE Nothing is impossible...........all changes could be looked at. Many great ideas have been brought up, I feel the same way about most of them.
Bruce
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Post by bill richards on Mar 9, 2009 14:05:24 GMT -4
Great stuff, but how come this weekend thing was not put on any of the satisfaction surveys last year? ? These types of things/suggestions/issues are why they are given to everyone in the first place. The affected people couldn't make it? Bill
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Post by shadow on Mar 9, 2009 14:08:55 GMT -4
Great stuff, but how come this weekend thing was not put on any of the satisfaction surveys last year? ? These types of things/suggestions/issues are why they are given to everyone in the first place. The affected people couldn't make it? Bill I am not saying that I disagree with any of the ideas Bill. People talking about Sat/Sun vice Fri/Sat thing were there. Obviously people who knew people who didn't go because there were no one day passes were there.
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Post by tothewall on Mar 9, 2009 14:09:32 GMT -4
According to the Fox Mountain Calendar, Fri/Sat/Sun are booked off as "Jeep Event".......so, that much of the equation should not be a problem! So if this is the case we have NO problems making the change. We are still 3 months out. Lets git 'er dunnnnnn ;D
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Post by Dugie on Mar 9, 2009 14:12:21 GMT -4
Just a thought.....
with regards to meals....what do the organizing commitee think of the meals? Is it a huge pain in the butt to provide all the meals? is it worth the trouble? do you make money? lose money?
I have been camping for years, and I sure I speak on behalf of a lot of people when I say......with a coleman stove and a few other odds and ends you can cook up a quite a few things. By decreasing the # of meals you serve it will also decrease the ticket price to the jam and that will also help some of the others that are on more of a budget. maybe include two meals in the ticket price like a nice hearty breakfast on saturday and on sunday have a big mo fo BBQ, hamburgers, hot dogs etc...late in they to gather everyone together for the prizes.
If people want to purchase their meals from the canteen they could purchase individual meal tickets for each meal when they register, then fox mtn would have an idea of how much food to buy and when you got your meal you handed in your ticket for that meal and your done.
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Post by bill richards on Mar 9, 2009 14:13:07 GMT -4
The affected people couldn't make it? Bill I am not saying that I disagree with any of the ideas Bill. People talking about Sat/Sun vice Fri/Sat thing were there. Obviously people who knew people who didn't go because there were no one day passes were there. Didn't think I implied that you were disagreeing... Not my intention. You're right though, you'd think that if the people attending knew of others who couldn't make it due to the dates, they would have added that on the evaluation. My small joke was only meant to imply that if this is the case, then the majority of the voices who are affected are not heard. Bill
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Post by Creepy on Mar 9, 2009 14:14:59 GMT -4
The affected people couldn't make it? Bill funny aside, this is true. John - you just described for us some of the logistical barriers where help is needed. This is unknown to the readers here. We don't know a thing until you tell us. Tell us you need a guy to sit in a shed for a few hours. tell us where you need bodies for tasks like this. Let's open the communication. I know lots of people roll their eyes when someone says "the board, oh god" but there are a crapload of people sitting here who WILL volunteer some time for these little things. Give us a list of tasks so the organizers can organize, you don't gotta do all the monotonous labour too.
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Post by shadow on Mar 9, 2009 14:16:06 GMT -4
I am not saying that I disagree with any of the ideas Bill. People talking about Sat/Sun vice Fri/Sat thing were there. Obviously people who knew people who didn't go because there were no one day passes were there. Didn't think I implied that you were disagreeing... Not my intention. You're right though, you'd think that if the people attending knew of others who couldn't make it due to the dates, they would have added that on the evaluation. My small joke was only meant to imply that if this is the case, then the majority of the voices who are affected are not heard. Bill I know what ya meant....lolol
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Post by bill richards on Mar 9, 2009 14:19:05 GMT -4
Just a thought..... with regards to meals....what do the organizing commitee think of the meals? Is it a huge pain in the butt to provide all the meals? is it worth the trouble? do you make money? lose money? I have been camping for years, and I sure I speak on behalf of a lot of people when I say......with a coleman stove and a few other odds and ends you can cook up a quite a few things. By decreasing the # of meals you serve it will also decrease the ticket price to the jam and that will also help some of the others that are on more of a budget. maybe include two meals in the ticket price like a nice hearty breakfast on saturday and on sunday have a big mo fo BBQ, hamburgers, hot dogs etc...late in they to gather everyone together for the prizes. If people want to purchase their meals from the canteen they could purchase individual meal tickets for each meal when they register, then fox mtn would have an idea of how much food to buy and when you got your meal you handed in your ticket for that meal and your done. I see your point... but if you take away things like this, I feel that it takes away from the "event" that is being held... Turns it more informal, and harder to differentiate between any other run. How many times in years past have I heard "I can just run those trials any time of year for free..." Bill
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Post by Hawkes on Mar 9, 2009 14:22:14 GMT -4
Just a thought..... with regards to meals....what do the organizing commitee think of the meals? Is it a huge pain in the butt to provide all the meals? is it worth the trouble? do you make money? lose money? I have been camping for years, and I sure I speak on behalf of a lot of people when I say......with a coleman stove and a few other odds and ends you can cook up a quite a few things. By decreasing the # of meals you serve it will also decrease the ticket price to the jam and that will also help some of the others that are on more of a budget. maybe just do up a nice hearty breakfast on saturday and on sunday have a big mo fo BBQ, hamburgers, hot dogs etc...late in they to gather everyone together for the prizes. If people want to purchase their meals from the canteen they could purchase individual meal tickets for each meal when they register, then fox mtn would have an idea of how much food to buy and when you got your meal you handed in your ticket for that meal and your done. From what I've seen there are a lot more non campers than campers. I had to buy a tent exclusively for Jamboree. There are no provisions in the field, no power, no water, and it's potentially dry, and all grass. There are volunteers who are always busy, plus many working on rigs in the evening, not much time for cooking. The meals are good, and I'd bet reasonably priced. Meals might be one of the perks for the campground to justify us being there.
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Post by shadow on Mar 9, 2009 14:22:41 GMT -4
Just a thought..... with regards to meals....what do the organizing commitee think of the meals? Is it a huge pain in the butt to provide all the meals? is it worth the trouble? do you make money? lose money? I have been camping for years, and I sure I speak on behalf of a lot of people when I say......with a coleman stove and a few other odds and ends you can cook up a quite a few things. By decreasing the # of meals you serve it will also decrease the ticket price to the jam and that will also help some of the others that are on more of a budget. maybe include two meals in the ticket price like a nice hearty breakfast on saturday and on sunday have a big mo fo BBQ, hamburgers, hot dogs etc...late in they to gather everyone together for the prizes. If people want to purchase their meals from the canteen they could purchase individual meal tickets for each meal when they register, then fox mtn would have an idea of how much food to buy and when you got your meal you handed in your ticket for that meal and your done. Having all the food for the whole weekend is a major plus in my opinion. You can simply come with a pup tent, sleeping bag and your Jeep and you are good to go. Can't see anyone messing around with the meals as we have had nothing but great feedback on the way it is done....mmmmmmmm bacon
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