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Post by MudMagnet on Jan 30, 2011 13:00:46 GMT -4
Breaker size would have been rated for unit. DA Dogg 5000 watts 240 volts.... do the math.... 20.8Amps.... according to the CEC you cannot draw any more than 80% load capacity of your breaker... therefor your only aloud to draw 16amps if your fusing it with a 20 amp breaker.... so the breaker was not rated for the heater.... like i said above it will work fine and not cause a problem... though it might trip out if left on for a while... but for anyone on here looking to do it to there own garage they should use a 30 incase it gets inspected or for any insurance inspections....
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Post by T-Dogg on Jan 30, 2011 15:30:08 GMT -4
Math was done when it was installed, and I believe it is a 30a breaker. Now your makeing me want to recheck it, who do I bill for that,,, Jan flip that off and let me know what I puit in DA DOgg
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Post by Creepy on Jan 30, 2011 17:00:37 GMT -4
Yeah, I been working, haven't been down there last few days. I will post it up later.
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Post by MudMagnet on Jan 30, 2011 20:06:59 GMT -4
it might just be labeled wrong, but it says heater above a d20 ;D i think ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Creepy on Jan 30, 2011 20:17:17 GMT -4
I checked, the heater label is correct and it is a 20A breaker.
I've got a 60A on the powermax45 and a 30A on the 380A plasma. compressor is 30A too.
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Post by 2004sahara on Jun 5, 2011 22:47:24 GMT -4
So do you feel that the electric heater is a success story (power bill)? Did you notice much of a hike, or was it hard to tell the difference running plasma cutters and welders?
I am sort of set up for infloor...pipe is in the floor(duh), and wire ran to area where I may run an electric water heater, then mix down to 95-100 deg or so..I need to pipe it up and it will probly cost 300 or so ..but I am sort of relucant due to the hike in the power bill...so I just wanted to know if you are happy with your decision cheap easy heat?
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Post by Creepy on Jun 5, 2011 23:39:43 GMT -4
The power bill difference is posted in an NSP chart earlier in the thread. $40 or $50 a month to heat 24/7. The plasma's and welders don't really rack up the bill compared to heating.
I can't compare my electric overhead heater to a hot water tank and in-floor, they have nothing in common. not sure what you mean. i'm happy with the overhead unit for sure.
Big6 knows a lot about the in-floor stuff, maybe he'll answer if you start a thread on the topic.
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Post by ©Big6™ on Jun 6, 2011 9:44:45 GMT -4
My dad has electric in floor in his 28 x 40 garage. He says his most expensive bill in the winter for 2 months is about $300. He keeps it on all the time at 10 deg C.
You don't want to be mixing water, just set your hot water heater to a lower temp. He runs his in floor at around 38-40 deg C. Uses an on demand hot water heater, I believe it runs off a 40 amp breaker.
He was also concerned in cost, we zoned a back room in the garage separate so that he could just heat that if it got too expensive, and filled the entire system with a glycol solution so it wouldn't freeze if that was the case. But it hasn't been too bad, the extra money he makes on the side doing jobs more than pays for the power in the garage.
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Post by 2004sahara on Jun 6, 2011 18:24:31 GMT -4
cool, and thanks!
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Post by Creepy on Feb 4, 2013 8:57:02 GMT -4
Real cold weather there the last few weeks, thought I'd update this old thread with a performance review. Inside/outside temps on one of the coldest nights. I had on a hoodie. This little electric unit still gets two thumbs up from me!
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Post by 53m38 on Mar 17, 2013 10:24:49 GMT -4
I’ve been in my house for 4 years and the heating choice has been on my mind since. Same for the garage. I put in a Fisher Papa Bear wood stove with an 8" Selkirk chimney in the 2 story garage. Cost was about $1,500. And there isn't constant heat obviously. I like this electric unit. I have one of my construction heaters wired in hanging from the 2nd floor. Could swap this in easy. Constant heat and clear up the 4X4 space the stove takes up. Anyone want to buy a Papa Bear and Chimney?
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Post by 53m38 on Mar 25, 2013 18:26:44 GMT -4
Jan, is your garage on its own power supply, or is it fed from the house?
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Post by Creepy on Mar 25, 2013 19:26:48 GMT -4
It's own pole, meter, bill and a 100A panel.
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Post by 53m38 on Mar 26, 2013 2:08:03 GMT -4
I'm looking into putting one in, but I only have a 8ga wire running to the garage from the house. To accommodate one of these, especially a 7500 watt one, plus a welder, compressor etc, you should have a 6, or even 4ga wire feeding the garage with a appropriate breaker. Good to know for anyone else who's thinking of this and supply your garage power from your house.
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Post by Creepy on Feb 23, 2014 9:33:52 GMT -4
A very cold evening last week. Nice and toasty in the shop.
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