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Post by Dave on Sept 5, 2013 20:47:55 GMT -4
I'll hold any more stupid questions till I come over and have a look.
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Post by SocialWheeler on Sept 6, 2013 7:48:49 GMT -4
It's the "photo" tire.
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Post by The Garagemahal on Sept 6, 2013 7:53:29 GMT -4
It's the "photo" tire. Lol yes that's right , it's the one buddy used to post them on kijiji
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Post by badwithcomputer on Sept 6, 2013 9:29:11 GMT -4
I must say, I've seen my fair share of Swampers. None have ever been Armour All'd lol, can't wait to see what you end up with! Also, if I've learned anything from Top Gear it's that you can drive those trucks into the ocean, leave it over night, then the next day remove the plugs, turn it over, put them back in and you're good to go.
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Post by chevystroker on Sept 6, 2013 9:38:54 GMT -4
I must say, I've seen my fair share of Swampers. None have ever been Armour All'd lol, can't wait to see what you end up with! Also, if I've learned anything from Top Gear it's that you can drive those trucks into the ocean, leave it over night, then the next day remove the plugs, turn it over, put them back in and you're good to go. That was a diesel Hi-Lux they tortured. I saw that episode. Wonder how a gas engine would fare? My older brother had the exact same model of truck as Scott's. They are tough. He tortured his and it survived. At least for a few years.
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Post by The Garagemahal on Sept 6, 2013 10:05:24 GMT -4
Hahaha. You can set it on a building , blow it up and then drive it away when the dust settles
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Post by TomWood on Sept 6, 2013 10:34:49 GMT -4
Can also drop a small camper trailer on it, run it into a tree, and light it on fire, then drive it away.
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Post by ©Big6™ on Sept 7, 2013 9:46:21 GMT -4
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Post by 53m38 on Sept 7, 2013 10:37:37 GMT -4
That's why I'm on my 7th Toy! Before I knew the importance of oil changes I had 3 22re's. They aren’t the diesel that's in the Hilux but they're still unstoppable.
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Post by chefted on Sept 8, 2013 19:58:11 GMT -4
You could use a waggy FT axel, same bolt pattern, correct width. It would have to be older for PS drop or flip the tubes on a newer one?
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Post by Creepy on Sept 8, 2013 20:19:41 GMT -4
The intent of the build is to try out the Toyota gear, mainly the front axle and its many different features to a D44. bolt-on knuckles, etc.
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Post by chefted on Sept 9, 2013 11:33:00 GMT -4
What is soo great about a toyota Ft housing? You have to buy aftermarket axels? The arms come off the knuckles with hard use. They are too narrow for the rear he wants to use, they bend under hard use. They are getting hard to come buy. In short, I don't get it.
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Post by rue on Sept 9, 2013 12:04:27 GMT -4
What is soo great about a toyota Ft housing? You have to buy aftermarket axels? The arms come off the knuckles with hard use. They are too narrow for the rear he wants to use, they bend under hard use. They are getting hard to come buy. In short, I don't get it. You would have to by aftermarket axles for the 44 too, wouldn't you?? The last time I ran a 44 I could break the axles when ever I tried LOL. And the axle is not the problem, it's the joint. Long fields or Dirty30s are the same strength as a stock 60 shaft! Your not goin to get that in a aftermarket 44
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Post by Creepy on Sept 9, 2013 15:52:44 GMT -4
What is soo great about a toyota Ft housing? You have to buy aftermarket axels? The arms come off the knuckles with hard use. They are too narrow for the rear he wants to use, they bend under hard use. They are getting hard to come buy. In short, I don't get it. In this instance its Scott wanting to try out different gear. Its not really a tech choice. They are kinda fun to work on too. - Everything is upgradable for way cheaper than a D44, and you wind up with a very light weight, strong axle. - Yes, you have to truss a Toy, it will bend. - Toys require aftermarket axle JOINTS. D44 requires aftermarket AXLES. The CV Toy design really cuts down on wheel-hop induced by u-joint phasing too. Kinda sounds like bullshit, but after going from stock joints to RCV's in my LJ, it does make a difference. The front wheels don't hop anymore. - D44 requires knuckle swaps and machine work for high steer, Toys bolt together. And have bolt on upgrade options instead of even more machine work to upgrade further. Its an advantage, not a disadvantage ,that the knuckles have bolt on arms. - Toys have massive brakes, big as 3/4 ton 8bolt D44. - Toys are a treat to set up gears in, diff on the bench, adjustable backlash. D44 are whores with the spacers. - the narrowness can be accounted for with basically free mod of IFS hubs and\or wheelspacers, the wheelbearings don't mind (they are huge, D60 size) My buggy WMS is front is at 59.5, rear is 60. That's the wide rear. So it does match. Granted if you need wider, you have to cut the housings, whereas D44 have width options. - Getting hard to find? Not really, you just have to look. no worse than a D44. Perhaps harder to find in good shape, but I could tell you a story of getting free ones in awesome shape and putting them under the CJ. I have just as many people looking for my D44 parts as I do Scott wanting one of my front axles. Might be different in NB, but here, Toys might be a bit easier to find, or maybe its because I don't look for D44's anymore. Used Toy front hub-to-hub in 1/2 decent shape commands $250 - parts are cheap and readily avail from TrailGear. knuckle rebuild kits etc.,but you'll wait 3 days for shipping. D44's you can just go to the local parts store. WEIGHT, in capitals! lol A superior design can maintain strength with less materials. I could lift my trussed Toy housing over my head, need two guys to move a D44 housing. Have you worked on Toys much? .They are fun I find.
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Post by chefted on Sept 9, 2013 16:13:45 GMT -4
What is soo great about a toyota Ft housing? You have to buy aftermarket axels? The arms come off the knuckles with hard use. They are too narrow for the rear he wants to use, they bend under hard use. They are getting hard to come buy. In short, I don't get it. You would have to by aftermarket axles for the 44 too, wouldn't you?? The last time I ran a 44 I could break the axles when ever I tried LOL. And the axle is not the problem, it's the joint. Long fields or Dirty30s are the same strength as a stock 60 shaft! Your not goin to get that in a aftermarket 44 Yup RCV axels, I believe the RCV D44 is every bit as strong as a dirty 30. What I meant was it doesn't matter toy or 44 you need to buy axels.
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