Sandboxcowboy
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Post by Sandboxcowboy on Feb 9, 2010 19:40:31 GMT -4
Hammonds PLains service center has a huge system installed 2 years ago we hooked the Ducting up for.
Good guys out there, if youre out that way some afternoon drop by or call em. Vernon Kynock "owns" the building but leases it to them. Its out almost to the Irving in Pockwock heading to tantallon.
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jptj
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Post by jptj on Feb 9, 2010 21:35:16 GMT -4
We've got one in our shop at work (5 bays). Never really had any issues with it. I think this is the 4th winter and it's only had to be cleaned once (though I think we'll be cleaning it out before next winter) and it runs a lot! We dump our oil (used engine oil, trans oil - almost anything liquid...) in a 45 gallon barrel, pump it through a filter to a huge holding tank (about 6' tall, 6' deep and at least 15' long!) in the back room, then back to the furnace tank/workbench as needed. The only downside is the furnace and blower are quite noisy, but it has no trouble keeping the shop warm.
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Big G
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Post by Big G on Feb 10, 2010 7:44:12 GMT -4
From conserve Nova Scotia; 1. Regulations for the current Environment Act of Nova Scotia prohibit the burning of waste oil in your home. There are specific situations that allow for the process including a scientific analysis of the chemical content for each supply of waste oil. The Regulations may be reviewed at: www.gov.ns.ca/just/regulations/regs/env17996.htm Schedule "A" lists the contaminants that must be identified in each load of oil and the upper limits for each contaminant. There is also an application process involved and an annual reporting system to be followed. 2. Building a home that embodies high levels of energy efficiency is your best defence against high heating costs. It is possible to build a new home that is so efficient it requires no heating system, other than passive/active solar and waste heat from appliances and occupants, but there is a cost to doing this that may not be possible for all owners. 3. A reliable source of waste oil is difficult to access, and quality is never guaranteed. 4. Most manufacturers of oil-fired residential heating equipment do not warranty their appliances when used with fuels other than #2 oil or other specifications. 5. There are a number of programs available to encourage the construction of energy-efficient new homes in Nova Scotia. Please go to our website for more information: www.conservens.ca/energuide/new-homes/default.asp 6. Given the accelerating interest in high air quality, and concerns about adding air pollutants to the atmosphere, it is highly likely that in the near future, no burning of waste oil will be allowed in the Province. An investment today in a waste oil-burning system could prove to be a poor decision in the near future. 7. Improving the energy efficiency of your new home is a much better investment than trying to reduce the cost of your heating fuel or energy. 8. Please consider the danger posed to the health and safety of your family/neighbours by storing and combusting contaminated fuels that have the potential to degrade local ground and air quality. Thank you for consulting us on this important choice for your new home. If we may further assist in any way, please feel free to contact me or to meet with one of our housing efficiency experts.
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98TJ
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Post by 98TJ on Feb 10, 2010 8:01:03 GMT -4
My brother sells/installs heating systems, he was telling me he did one last week.....new construction house/garage. They built another building 14x16 put a wood/oil boiler in it. That gave them room for wood storage, oil tank, and wired in a generator hook up. Piped underground to in floor heat 2 levels of the house and in floor in the garage. I was a Newmac......not sure which one, but his cost was about 9k for the unit. He said prob one of the most efficient systems he's seen in a while..............but big $$$ newmacfurnaces.com/about/index.html
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Big G
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Post by Big G on Feb 10, 2010 8:21:01 GMT -4
Not waste oil though? Looking at coal fired boilers now. LOL Wonder if you can buy coal localy? The waste oil idea isn't quite dead yet. Still reading through this; www.gov.ns.ca/just/regulations/regs/env17996.htmTrying to determin if it's absolutely not possible or if it's just a hastle.
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Hawkes
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Post by Hawkes on Feb 10, 2010 8:22:44 GMT -4
My brother sells/installs heating systems, he was telling me he did one last week.....new construction house/garage. They built another building 14x16 put a wood/oil boiler in it. That gave them room for wood storage, oil tank, and wired in a generator hook up. Piped underground to in floor heat 2 levels of the house and in floor in the garage. I was a Newmac......not sure which one, but his cost was about 9k for the unit. He said prob one of the most efficient systems he's seen in a while..............but big $$$ newmacfurnaces.com/about/index.htmlBack in the day houses used to have their woodhouse attached at the back, it usually had the outhouse in it too. This building is seperate? Not sure I'd like putting my boots on to fill the furnace, but it would keep the mess out.
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98TJ
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Post by 98TJ on Feb 10, 2010 8:24:33 GMT -4
He sells and installs them also............. Just put a new one in at L.R. Doherty Welding and John Deere dealers Kentville and Middleton.
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Post by mostheman on Feb 10, 2010 10:04:18 GMT -4
Try getting insurance while burning coal.....plus you gotta go to stellarton or CB to get it
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Post by mostheman on Feb 10, 2010 10:05:13 GMT -4
cheapest option is Hardwood........my opinion go geothermal..pay up front for system then its super cheap.
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Big G
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Post by Big G on Feb 10, 2010 15:53:53 GMT -4
From Transport Canada; Your question was forwarded to the Inspector Education and Public Awareness Division of the Transportation of Dangerous Goods (TDG) Directorate within Transport Canada for response. The Transportation of Dangerous Goods (TDG) Regulations are comprised of 16 Parts and 3 Schedules and can be viewed by using the following link: www.tc.gc.ca/tdg/clear/tofc.htm Part 2 of the TDG Regulations deal with the classification of dangerous goods. According to section 2.2 of the TDG Regulations, it is their responsibility of the consignor (i.e. shipper / manufacturer) to verify if the used oil is a dangerous goods or not. New oil is usually not considered a dangerous goods because of its flash point is too high. Liquids that have a flash point above 60 C are not regulated. The flash point, the lowest temperature at which the oil gives off vapours which can ignite. It is dangerous for the oil in a motor to ignite and burn, so a high flash point is desirable. Used oil in itself, although dangerous to the environment, is also not usually considered a dangerous goods by Transport Canada unless contaminated by other products. This contamination could make the used oil either toxic (PCBs), flammable (gasoline) or corrosive (acids). For example, motor oil may have a flash point of 230 C and gasoline -40 C. The mixing of oil and gasoline may lower the flash point enough so that the mixture becomes regulated. One thing you can do to avoid you oil becoming dangerous goods, is to ensure that you only put used oil in the container and nothing else, no gasoline, no solvent, nothing else... this way, your used oil remains only used oil and could be transported as non-regulated under TDG Regulations. We suggest that you contact your provincial ministry of environment in order to find out if they regulate used oil. If you have any additional questions, please contact us.
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MFR
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Post by MFR on Feb 10, 2010 20:24:30 GMT -4
I'm guessing you've already checked to ensure there are no covenants for your subdivision against these fuels?
Why don't you investigate insulation and enviromentally friendly heating instead of dirty fuels?
Use your google skills for the good of the environment ;D
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bill richards
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Post by bill richards on Feb 10, 2010 20:34:18 GMT -4
rainbows and unicorns! Bill
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Post by mostheman on Feb 10, 2010 22:15:49 GMT -4
Rainbows produce little heat when burnt and unicorns smell like BBQ........I'm still saying going geo thermal is the best bet. Design for both garage and house, it will help heat in the winter and help cool in the summer.
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Post by theonlybull on Feb 11, 2010 0:49:19 GMT -4
thermal mass, passive solar.... and wood heat....... if i was building a new house, there would be alot of different things done to make it more efficent... mother earth news is a good place for info as well
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Big G
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Post by Big G on Feb 11, 2010 7:31:51 GMT -4
I'm not convinced that the high initial cost of geothermal, and well as the interest payed on said initial investment, is worth the savings... but I'm no expert in the field. Also, I know that an air to air heat pump can be used to cool in the summer, but I don't think a geothermal can.... unless you want to use a water to air exchanger, and account for moisture, and set up a duct system. My failsafe is an electric hot water boiler, with one of more heat storage units to take advantage of the night rate. Perhaps some solar panels to complement. Combustion is what I do, so I find it interesting to investigate the different methods people use for cheap heat. It all comes down to your source... I'm currently reading up on wood gasification. Oh, and I worked in a waste oil re-refinery for 3 years... just to let you in on why it interests me so much.
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