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Post by 4X4PLAY on Feb 20, 2010 12:15:26 GMT -4
i heat my house and garage at home with wood( 2 air tights) works great and only cost is gas for the saw Maybe if you own a good chunk of wooded land. I would think it's still cheaper though, I had a gravity fed oil stove in my house in the Valley and it was dirt cheap to heat when oil prices were lower. Jeff
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Post by shadow on Feb 20, 2010 12:43:20 GMT -4
i heat my house and garage at home with wood( 2 air tights) works great and only cost is gas for the saw Maybe if you own a good chunk of wooded land. Jeff Just as good if your father does eh Casey.... ;D ;D
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Post by Big G on Feb 20, 2010 19:53:27 GMT -4
In reference to the pellets; I was thinking more along the lines of a pellet boiler. They've got a huge hopper that's installed beside, and can probably hold a couple day's worth. I'd post a link, but I'm in dial up here, and everything takes freakin' forever!!!!
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Post by itsakeeper on Feb 20, 2010 20:18:59 GMT -4
now that is a little different - didn't know they existed - Enligna (formerly MacTara) in Upper Musquodoboit were selling their pellets in bulk last year, take you pickup and back under the hopper and pay by weight - pellets are too large and of different composition for most pellet stoves but it may work for these
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Post by theonlybull on Feb 20, 2010 23:14:16 GMT -4
In reference to the pellets; I was thinking more along the lines of a pellet boiler. They've got a huge hopper that's installed beside, and can probably hold a couple day's worth. I'd post a link, but I'm in dial up here, and everything takes freakin' forever!!!! alot of the wood boilers can handle the lower grade of pellets too i know they were lookin at putting a pellet plant in down here.
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Post by Big G on Feb 22, 2010 10:17:34 GMT -4
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Post by Big G on Apr 18, 2010 18:49:00 GMT -4
Looks like I'll need to decide sooner rather then later so here's what I've got;
In-floor heat throughout the house.
Wood boiler primary with electric boiler secondary, both located in the detached garage.
Space heater in the garage fed by boiler(s).
Solar panel domestic hot water heat with electric backup.
The only two small details to decide are weather or not to bury the heat pipes in cement of have them between the joists. And, if I'll have a couple solar panels to supplement the boiler's heat. Both will probably be decided based on cost and return on investment. Heating has by far been the most difficult aspect to decide in planning to build a house. Let me know what you think!
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Post by Hawkes on Apr 18, 2010 19:33:14 GMT -4
Looks like I'll need to decide sooner rather then later so here's what I've got; In-floor heat throughout the house. Wood boiler primary with electric boiler secondary, both located in the detached garage. Space heater in the garage fed by boiler(s). Solar panel domestic hot water heat with electric backup. The only two small details to decide are weather or not to bury the heat pipes in cement of have them between the joists. And, if I'll have a couple solar panels to supplement the boiler's heat. Both will probably be decided based on cost and return on investment. Heating has by far been the most difficult aspect to decide in planning to build a house. Let me know what you think! Does Angeline know she'll have to go to the garage to put wood in the fire? If that was the case here we wouldn't burn any wood when I'm away. Just keep in mind heating water with electricity is very expensive, almost any alternative is cheaper, except maybe propane. If I was building new some kind of solar would be a priority.
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Post by 90bronco on Apr 18, 2010 21:14:33 GMT -4
Looks like I'll need to decide sooner rather then later so here's what I've got; In-floor heat throughout the house. Wood boiler primary with electric boiler secondary, both located in the detached garage. Space heater in the garage fed by boiler(s). Solar panel domestic hot water heat with electric backup. The only two small details to decide are weather or not to bury the heat pipes in cement of have them between the joists. And, if I'll have a couple solar panels to supplement the boiler's heat. Both will probably be decided based on cost and return on investment. Heating has by far been the most difficult aspect to decide in planning to build a house. Let me know what you think! Doing an over pour or doing Joist imo would depend on what you plan to have for flooring and what you have to use for Joists i.e conventional lumber ,TGI or wood web/metal web . Over pour is more efficient as the cement holds the heat better but adds a lot to laying wood floors ,tile floors are not a concern in that application. In joist is harder to do in manufactured joists and requires being insulated with foiled bubble wrap between each Joist to reflect the heat upwards ,works well also and extra cost eliminated concerning flooring but not quite as efficient . Myself i would do wood web joists with strong backs and do in joist . I think the little less efficiency far outweighs the extra's of over pour extra costs . Just my opinion from doing both ways but then again if it were me i would do trench geothermal too ;D
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Post by soxamalox on Apr 19, 2010 4:25:17 GMT -4
Does Angeline know she'll have to go to the garage to put wood in the fire? If that was the case here we wouldn't burn any wood when I'm away. Just keep in mind heating water with electricity is very expensive, almost any alternative is cheaper, except maybe propane. If I was building new some kind of solar would be a priority. I am aware ;D Well, I should say I was aware before reading this LOL! These heating decisions are tough when thinking about start up costs, efficiency, long-term use/cost etc. Solar is an awesome idea but can be costly to start up correctly and a back up is also necessary. I think G was planning the solar pannels as a back up to help reduce the cost of running the electric boiler. Decisions.....decisions....
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Post by 98TJ on Apr 19, 2010 6:58:17 GMT -4
My brother does a lot of these installs, joist space and over pour were popular a few years ago, but as 90bronco said most people ran into issues with flooring. Hardwood doesn't seem to like direct heat to the bottom of it. Lately the the choice has been to put the in floor in the basement , and baseboard up stairs...much more cost effective, no flooring issues and they find the heat coming from the concrete mass in the basement warms the floors up stairs.
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Post by Big G on Apr 19, 2010 7:06:04 GMT -4
If sized properly I shouldn't have to load wood more then two or three times a day. I'm never away more then 14 hours... so Mrs Big G loading it shouldn't be an issue. If it goes out, the electric can top it off until I get back.
Perhaps the domestic hot water can be tied into the heating loop. Going to have a long talk with whoever my contractor uses for such things.
Forgot to mention; I'm going to add about 10' to the back of the garage... floor and roof, but open walls for firewood storage, with an exterior door beside the boiler to the storage area. Also, I'll have an area cleared away from the house for cutting and splitting... messy unsightly stuff basically.
Contractor's telling me that there's not much cost difference between poured in-floor to non. Plan is for wood flooring for about 75%.
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Post by itsakeeper on Apr 19, 2010 16:15:21 GMT -4
who is your contractor anyway ?
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Post by theonlybull on Apr 19, 2010 18:08:25 GMT -4
personally, i furnace that only has to be loaded 3-4 times a day... just isn't a good idea. your looking to burn alot of wood, and have alot of creasote issues......
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Post by Big G on Apr 20, 2010 6:39:56 GMT -4
personally, i furnace that only has to be loaded 3-4 times a day... just isn't a good idea. your looking to burn alot of wood, and have alot of creasote issues...... As opposed to what? I can get away with that with my wood stove with virtually nothing when I clean it yearly... and I thought furnaces and boilers could last longer between fillings!?! Everyone post up how often you fill your wood furnace/ boiler! ;D
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