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Post by Big G on Apr 29, 2011 6:49:35 GMT -4
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Post by Creepy on Apr 29, 2011 7:08:33 GMT -4
Quick glance - 211 looks to have more features, is smaller, and has same thickness rating.
The MVP feature is pretty awesome, the bigger one is 240V only.
As a home hobby user, the multi-power source feature would be the right buy. You won't be tied to a dedicated plug. Same for duty cycle, i'm assuming the bigger one has a longer duty cycle, but the little one will be fine for automotive hobby work.
I'm not sure if the smaller one is the same as Scott's, but his has the auto-wire thing and it works pretty good.
ps: don't let the physical size fool you, power supplies have become much smaller the last couple of years. My 45A plasma is 1/2 the size of my 30A. look at the #'s carefully.
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Post by 90bronco on Apr 29, 2011 7:26:12 GMT -4
Brother in law bought the 211 about a month ago with alum spool gun . he likes the power switch and auto set a lot but hasn't tried the spool gun yet . It welds lovely .
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Post by C Monster on Apr 29, 2011 11:03:52 GMT -4
I wood go with the miller 211 and buy a plasma cuter with the money you save ;D
I have a miller 175 that a bot new about 9 years ago I use it about 4 too 10 times a week for 9 years now it's all ways worked great
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Post by johnny5 on Apr 29, 2011 14:59:10 GMT -4
x2 on what cman/monster sd . i weld for a living so at home i thought i wanted a big machine too but bought a miller 185 and am impressed the power it has for its size , rated at 5/16 single pass. Used steady for 2yrs now and bougt a hypertherm plasma cutter with what i saved prob my fav purchase to date just on what i saved on zipcuts.
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Post by shadow on Apr 29, 2011 20:31:28 GMT -4
Nice machines. So does the auto set feature sense what you are using for a power source and compensate somehow if you are using 120V instead of 230V?
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Post by HardKorTJ on Apr 29, 2011 21:16:40 GMT -4
I run a Miller 180 its the 240 with the auto set.... It works mint. Never had a problem with it and its got the juice to weld 1/4 easy,
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Post by Big G on Apr 30, 2011 5:53:15 GMT -4
Nice machines. So does the auto set feature sense what you are using for a power source and compensate somehow if you are using 120V instead of 230V? No, auto set adjusts wire speed and power. I think you just set the metal thinkness and it takes care of the rest.
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Post by The Garagemahal on Apr 30, 2011 6:49:23 GMT -4
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Post by 90bronco on Apr 30, 2011 6:53:12 GMT -4
Nice machines. So does the auto set feature sense what you are using for a power source and compensate somehow if you are using 120V instead of 230V? No, auto set adjusts wire speed and power. I think you just set the metal thinkness and it takes care of the rest. yup
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Post by Creepy on Apr 30, 2011 8:58:10 GMT -4
Nice machines. So does the auto set feature sense what you are using for a power source and compensate somehow if you are using 120V instead of 230V? Yes. You can input any line voltage and there are plug adapters. I think you were refering to this feature, not the auto wire speed/amperage feature? My plasma has the dual voltage, but its on a switch and you have to cut the cord and put a new plug on.
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Post by shadow on Apr 30, 2011 9:06:28 GMT -4
Nice machines. So does the auto set feature sense what you are using for a power source and compensate somehow if you are using 120V instead of 230V? Yes. You can input any line voltage and there are plug adapters. I think you were refering to this feature, not the auto wire speed/amperage feature? My plasma has the dual voltage, but its on a switch and you have to cut the cord and put a new plug on. I was just wondering if you had it plugged into 120 and put the auto set on for say 1/4" and welded say a butt joint... then you switched it to a 230 outlet, left the auto set in the same place and welded the same piece....is it going to burn the same way? I assume the duty cycle would be different and was just wondering if you would get the same penetration/buildup using the two different input voltages.
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Post by Creepy on May 1, 2011 7:07:25 GMT -4
More amperage would be avail. to the machine with a higher voltage input, I'd guess having the the autoset on the same setting would yield better penetration. Maybe it would change the wirespeed, i dunno.
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Post by shadow on May 1, 2011 9:44:06 GMT -4
More amperage would be avail. to the machine with a higher voltage input, I'd guess having the the autoset on the same setting would yield better penetration. Maybe it would change the wirespeed, i dunno. Yeah that's exactly what I was wondering. Not that it really matters, but was just curious... ;D
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Post by Big G on May 2, 2011 16:42:35 GMT -4
So, what are the advantages of 110 over 220? Power consumed when welding lighter stuff?
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