Creepy
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Post by Creepy on Nov 26, 2008 14:15:16 GMT -4
I can't afford $20 a day to heat an empty shop. I'd want to put it on a digital thermostat and keep it above freezing is all.
yeah Moe, i think the selkirk is 7", but then i'll have a hole in my roof. lol
its just the electricity is so easy. no oil tank to spill and ruin the 3 wells around me, no insurance crap like with wood, no chopping. no running out of propane every sunday at 5pm.
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Post by sbcwrangler on Nov 26, 2008 14:17:09 GMT -4
I run a single 4800W construction heater in my 24' x 24' fully finished garage and keep the thermostat just above freezing. I ran it all last winter and barely noticed any increase in my normal power bill.
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Post by mostheman on Nov 26, 2008 14:30:35 GMT -4
Friend built a garage with infloor heating and uses a large hot water heater (regular electric domestic HWH) to heat the glycol. He swears by it says its cheap cause your not heating 4 degree water like you normally would coming out of the well once its heated your just maintaining the temperature.
Not really an option unless your building new but something to think about if you were to build.
He has a sweet shop as well ICF construction so his heat losses wouldn't be huge.
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Post by Creepy on Nov 26, 2008 14:31:18 GMT -4
I run a single 4800W construction heater in my 24' x 24' fully finished garage and keep the thermostat just above freezing. I ran it all last winter and barely noticed any increase in my normal power bill. ok man, that is what i wanted to hear. my shop is detached 20x24, 10 years old, insulated, drywalled, wood 10x9 garage door, steel man door. two sorta crappy windows. sound about the same? and can you crank it up to work in a hoodie on a cold day? lets say -10ish. where did you get it? who makes it?
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Post by Jeepy on Nov 26, 2008 14:47:43 GMT -4
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Post by mostheman on Nov 26, 2008 15:21:02 GMT -4
Yeah I never thought about it cause but my expierence is more case specific. Heaters were used in a 5000 000 sf Butler building with a headspace of 26'. We had them cranked wide open and they ran full bore as long as they were plugged in.
Definitely not the same as a 20x24 shop with 10' ceilings.
Apologies for the application specific dissing of the construction heaters..........wanna buy some hardwood... I'll put you on the list for next year... lol
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Post by Ken McIntosh on Nov 26, 2008 15:36:40 GMT -4
My 4800 watt on the -9 day was coming on ,running for 10 min and than shutting off for 20 or 25 min.Worked in a t-shirt.Garage is 14 x 26,12ft ceilings,uninsulated 10x10 and vapor barrier on about 25% walls and ceilings. I was impressed.worked well and very quite.Kent's Baker dr had a shelf full.
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Post by Creepy on Nov 26, 2008 15:48:48 GMT -4
man, that's hard to believe. (i mean i believe you....but it goes against what i know) its so small. the ones in the link i posted earlier are $406/5000W/350cfm. yours is $70/4800W/160cfm. what is with the price difference?
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Post by tothewall on Nov 26, 2008 15:53:37 GMT -4
Its not the size of the heater its the temperature produced...
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Post by Creepy on Nov 26, 2008 15:55:23 GMT -4
i would want the heater to last more than one season of maximum performance. hopefully many years of service. not a toy. :0
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Post by tothewall on Nov 26, 2008 16:02:27 GMT -4
I think I am gonna go with the baseboard heaters... Will cost about 250$ to buy the 4 heaters and the digital thermostat.
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Post by Creepy on Nov 26, 2008 16:09:21 GMT -4
ceiling fan? they are around $50. pushes the heat off the ceiling. you'll get pissed when you are cold and you stick your hand up in the air and its 25 degrees. lol
just run it when you are out there.
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Post by tothewall on Nov 26, 2008 16:20:51 GMT -4
A valid point... Maybe gonna need a fan or two. that whole garage is getting overhauled in the spring. All the shelving is coming out... Anything no garage related is going into the house in the storage under the stairs, the workbench is going to the opposite side and the whole thing is getting painted white. Then starting with an empty, white 24 x 24 room I am, in consultation with my more organized friends, going to plan out the space.
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Post by Creepy on Nov 26, 2008 16:30:01 GMT -4
cool. here's the heater i got from Kenny. It seems small. but its 4000W.
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Post by cjeff on Nov 26, 2008 16:34:33 GMT -4
I dont think it would cost quite $20 a day, it is farily easy to figure out how much an electric heater will cost in power. If the 4000W heater runs for one hour it uses 4Kwh and it might run like 6 hours a day. So 6X4 24Kwh a day. Nova scotia power charges around 12 cents per kwh (not sure cant find an old power bill) which equals 24KwhX$0.12 $2.88 per day. which is like $90 a month added to your power bill.
Edit: the going rate is $0.1067 so thats $2.56 a day and $79 a month. If your shop is insulated fairly well and the doors are not left open a lot it would probably run less than six hours a day.
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