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Post by Big G on May 9, 2011 12:41:45 GMT -4
Just bench building here... stupid boring rainy day's leave me too much time with my imagination.  What would be involved in using a front wheel drive car's drivetrain to make a rear engine rail style buggy? I know it's been done, but can't find much on the web. Anybody have links? |
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Post by Enos on May 9, 2011 12:53:52 GMT -4
Not a lot, there are production ones out there already. I belive the Rhyno uses a 1.8L Honda motor and transaxle going out to the diffs.
Alan and I talked about it before, thinking a 2.0L Chrysler would be cheap to find and use.
Edit: Didn't see you were talking a rear engine, I was thinking mid engine with 4wd
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Post by Creepy on May 9, 2011 12:53:52 GMT -4
pirate is loaded with them. you gotta run axles upside down or something. no t-case.
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Post by DamnJeep on May 9, 2011 12:54:59 GMT -4
What I had planned on doing was taking a FWD car and spinning the plant sideways. Using the Zuk axles I have (which are off-set) and using the axle shafts as drive shafts and going direct to the diffs.
But that was just a plan..... ;D
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Post by Big G on May 9, 2011 13:10:21 GMT -4
Yup, my old "tractor" was built like that... as well as most comp rock crawling buggies. Pretty neat, as the axle reduction is like a secondary... super low.
But yeah, I was thinking 2wd rear engine buggy. That way the entire drivetrain and rear suspension is all in one... just got to build steering and front suspension... and a bunch of tube in between. ;D
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Post by Big G on May 9, 2011 13:12:53 GMT -4
Don't know why I put this in Jeep tech. LOL Probably more off topic.
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Post by Enos on May 9, 2011 13:14:44 GMT -4
Don't forget the few hundered pounds of weight you're going to need in the front to keep the wheels on the ground  |
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Post by Enos on May 9, 2011 13:16:59 GMT -4
pirate is loaded with them. you gotta run axles upside down or something. no t-case. Why would you have to run the axles upside down? |
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Post by Big G on May 9, 2011 13:20:23 GMT -4
Don't forget the few hundered pounds of weight you're going to need in the front to keep the wheels on the ground Meh. ;D I'm good for 1.65 of those couple hundred pounds! LOL |
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Post by Creepy on May 9, 2011 13:20:49 GMT -4
upside down diffs - I think the Honda's spin in the opposite direction to most other motors or something. Glen - I moved this here from gen. b4 you mentioned sand rails. i think we all assumed 4x4 and a transverse mid engine. but whatever...carry on. |
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Post by Enos on May 9, 2011 13:23:07 GMT -4
upside down diffs - I think the Honda's spin in the opposite direction to most other motors or something. Why not just turn the motor 180*?  |
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Post by Creepy on May 9, 2011 13:25:11 GMT -4
I don't know man. lol This is a Glen thread. It'll all work out in the end. ;D
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Post by Enos on May 9, 2011 13:30:32 GMT -4
Yeah, its irreverent since he's building a dune buggy..although I can't for the life of me figure why with no dunes you can legally drive in here...oh wait, that's irreverent too. LOL
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Post by Big G on May 9, 2011 13:47:42 GMT -4
Well...
My intention was to build a nice crusher dust trail around my property. It would be for walking, biking and I'd build a go kart or two for the family. When my dump trailer done, this is going to be it's main purpose. I started clearing the trail this passed weekend... and realized that it would take ALOT of fill/ gravel/ crusher dust to get it to what I want. The idea's not dead, but I'm leaning towards a rougher trail, and a beefier buggy. LOL.
All ideas for now. The trailer will be used one way or the other, so it's not a waste.
It's gonna be fun taking the Jeep around for the first time. I might make an event out of it. ;D
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Post by chevystroker on May 9, 2011 13:56:26 GMT -4
My brother and I built a 2WD buggy like that using a cavalier engine. The transmission and axles are actually behind the engine, so when it is put in the back, it actually becomes a mid-engined buggy. We used the subframe, control arms, and struts, everything, .. worked great.
If you want 4WD, then use two engine/trans combos (one in the front and one in the back), use automatics, tie the two shifters together, and away you go. 8 cyl power. Car and Drive magazine did this to a Honda CR-X back in the eightys, accelerated faster than a corvette at the time.
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