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Post by justbluemyself on Oct 14, 2021 12:30:34 GMT -4
I’ll ask again here since I haven’t received a response on Facebook. Has any consideration been given to members who are ‘inactive’ due to the global pandemic and provincial state of emergency we have been under since March of 2020? With all of the uncertainty on trail runs and events being preemptively cancelled, wouldn’t the reasonable thing to do be to grant members in arrears on dues a ‘pass’ for this time period?
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Post by eastcoastcam on Oct 14, 2021 16:46:30 GMT -4
It seems to be not the case. It seems old members that let their dues lapse for whatever reason is just like a new prospective member. Gotta jump through the hoops I guess, although it wasn't that way before...
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Post by justbluemyself on Oct 14, 2021 17:03:07 GMT -4
It’s a ridiculous way to treat old members. As I understood it, the reason there was a 3 run and 1 meeting rule was so that the club could assess who you are and if you’re fit to join. To treat old members like they are random/strangers feels insulting and I’m not interested in jumping through unnecessary hoops I’ve already jumped through.
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Post by donsjeep on Oct 15, 2021 9:14:38 GMT -4
I love the name lol
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Post by eastcoastcam on Oct 15, 2021 9:34:58 GMT -4
It’s a ridiculous way to treat old members. As I understood it, the reason there was a 3 run and 1 meeting rule was so that the club could assess who you are and if you’re fit to join. To treat old members like they are random/strangers feels insulting and I’m not interested in jumping through unnecessary hoops I’ve already jumped through. I totally agree, especially in Craig's case, but mine as well. |
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Post by Sahra Mac on Oct 15, 2021 14:42:26 GMT -4
These things are more complicated than you are making them seem. There is no process for this in the charter, and no previous pandemic or global disaster to prefer to how we've done it in the past. Brand new territory for the Execs. What they do here sets the tone and creates a precedent. Regardless of what I believe should happen in this instance, I do believe due process is required going forward. If you are unable to bring this concern for charter voting to the AGM, give it to a member who can bring it forward for you so a process can be developed and put in place to ensure there is clarity for the future.
Bring a recommendation forward for those who didn't pay 2020 or 2021 fees as a special exception so it's not creating an unnecessary precedent to be fought over in a few years.
We need ways to ensure we foster community, and keep away any divides while also ensuring equity in how we handle memberships.
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Post by justbluemyself on Oct 16, 2021 16:03:03 GMT -4
Out of respect for the club I am continuing this conversation here instead of on the public NSJC Facebook page.
I am respectfully requesting a response to my question from any member of the Halifax Chapter executive as I haven’t received one to date.
To clarify my point, it is not with the dues. I had forgotten that currently a portion of the dues has a charitable benefit, and a portion goes to insurance for club activities. I have offered to pay my dues. The problem I have is with how this current executive has chosen such a heavy handed approach to the current charter, with regard to deeming a member ‘active’ or ‘inactive’, while we have been living in pandemic conditions for the last 18+ months. Especially when deeming a member ‘inactive’ carries the repercussion of expelling a member from the club. By the way I have never received any type of notice that I have been expelled by the club which I have been a member since 2016. Even if I had dutifully paid my dues, I would have still been expelled for inactivity. This is a Jeep club, not the Sons of Anarchy. The charter as written allows the executives to use their sole discretion on how they wish to interpret the wording and spirit of the document. Instead of extending courtesy, understanding and compassion for these members we call friends, the executive has decided this is a good time in history to use the charter like a weapon.
Can the executive also please provide a list of all NSJC members of the Halifax Chapter that have been deemed inactive and or expelled from the club (including the reason) since March 2020.
Respectfully,
Jeff Boutilier
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Post by Alan Justason on Oct 17, 2021 11:31:01 GMT -4
There is no doubt there is wording in the charter that need clarification . I can understand that over time new executives could not know the original intent, especially if 2 things contradicted. What I don't understand is why they wouldn't ask charter and longtime members for advice one the true intention. It's not like it was written 150 years ago, these people are easy to contact.
I've seen a few comments saying the Halifax chapter has been trying for years to make charter changes. and that it has been very hard. The only time the steering committee has been contacted to review and present changes to the charter(since 2007) to all Chapter's membership is when Dean was president. For the most part he did a great job making the wording clear, there were a couple places he didn't get the intent right, and added a couple things that would have made big changes in the club. I know the Valley chapter reviewed and responded in a timely manner. For the most part we were in agreement, just a couple things we weren't in agreement on. Our steering committee member has never gotten a response, seemed it died with Dean leaving.
I think if a group of members (new and old) from across the club got together, the charter could be updated fairly quickly. It's not something that should be taken on by one member or one chapter.
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