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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 15:35:50 GMT -4
I bought my 2007 JKU the end of May and ever since I have gotten more and more into it. So I really want to do some modifications but since I live in an apt building and I'm at university both garage and budget are limiting the build for the time being however I have a plan that is designed around that. If anyone has suggestions as to changes to this plan I'm open to ideas in fact it would be greatly appreciated. Well here it is:)
Stage 1 CB Radio – 200 Poison Spyder Rocker knockers – 700 Poison Spyder evap skid – 110 Evo bolt on rear D-ring mounts – 150 Evo front control arm skids – 50 Evo rear lower control arm skids – 50 Poison Spyder heavy duty cross member – 220 River Raider steel skid – 1100 AEV rear slider diff skid plate – 300 AEV Snorkel – 400 River Raider breather hose extensions – 80 Poison Spyder comp stinger – 400 Rigid duallys to replace fog lights - 250 Smitty Built overhead console – 15
Total before shipping and labor – 3020
Stage 2 Evo tire carrier w/corners and lights – 1500 Taraflex budget boost w/shocks – 550 Nitto mud grapplers 35x12.5 – 2500 Wheels – 1500? Any suggestions? 60 inch Hi Lift Extreme jack – 120 River Raider Hi Lift jack mount- 100
Total before shipping and labor – 6270
Stage 3 Warn winch 12000– 1500? Rear winch setup custom fab – 1500 + fab work Warn winch cover x2– 120 Factor 55 pro link x2– 300 Factor 55 winch lock x2 – 60 Poison Spyder front narrow crusher flares – 500 LED marker – 30 Poison Spyder rear crusher flares – 500 limb risers – 80 Safari Straps – 500 Body Armour front and rear tubular doors with mirrors - 1000 Drake hood catches – 150 Rigid dually D2 LED w/Poison Spyder A-pillar mounts – 400 Truck lite LED headlights - 500
Total before shipping and labor – 6240
Stage 4 Poison Spyder 4-door trail cage – 1000 Poison Spyder c pillar – 150 Poison Spyder Body Armor (aluminum) - 300 Poison Spyder B-Pillar covers - 100 Nemisis dual battery tray – 300 Dual Deep cycle batteries – 400 sPod 6 swich w/air gauge – 500 4 Ridged dually D2s for rock lights – 440 (custom mounts?) ARB high proformance air compressor – 600 MBRP off road exhaust and skid - 1000
Total before shipping and labor - 4790
Stage 5 Evo double throwdown front coilovers – 3200 Evo double throwdown rear coilovers – 5000 Evo extreme clearance long arm kit – 2300 Front and rear drive shafts – 1200 Fox steering stabilizer - 150 Adjustable track bar – 260 Gussets for the dana 30 – 100 Truss / sleeve to strengthen? – 200
Total before shipping and labor - 12,500
Stage 5.5 Taraflex Big Break kit – 800 37x12.5 Nitto Trail grapplers – 3000 new wheels – 1500?
Total before shipping and labor - 5,300
Put the 37s on and just wait for the axles to break or to bust a ring and pinion when they go its time for stage 6
Stage 6 Dynatrac prorock 80 rear axle with ARB air locker – 10000 Dynatrac prorock 60 front axle with ARB air locker – 8000 40x13.5 Nitto mud grapplers – 3500 new wheels – 2000?
Total before shipping and labor -23,500
Stage 6 “the dream” AEV 6.4l Hemi conversion kit – 6000 6.4l hemi w/transmission – 15000? Atlas 4sp transfer case – 4000
Total before shipping and labor -25,000
This whole hemi conversion could change if a decent turbo diesel conversion ever came on the market… to far in the future to be able to tell but I want to build a rig of similar stature regardless. Maybe be a lot cheaper if I found a used hemi. Also the cost of labor for the conversion would be very high so hopefully my mechanical skills will improve and possibly be able to do the conversion myself or with the help of friends. Time will tell ☺
A fair amount of this I plan to install myself. Hopefully the first 3 stages over the next 2 years or so, however plans change so who knows. The last few stages for axles and hemi I might make a trip down to the states and get some of the big stuff installed but I’m sure there are legal problems. I just want to keep the shipping costs down which could be insane for that much weight. That would be a ways down the road however one can always dream.
I was looking at the Evo tire carrier and wanted to fab a rear winch mount and cage skid plate to protect it when dropping off rocks. I want some combination of the tjre tire carrier cage and the Evo jk cage. I don’t want to put the winch where the stock muffler is because I want to put cantilever coilovers there in the future. I thought about modifying the rear cross member on the frame and putting the winch there or putting a winch plate on top but it needs to clear the tailgate. Anyway I think you get my point it’s a dilemma maybe cant be done short of a $ 5000 custom job from Evo or Some other fab shop in the states… anyways if anyone has ideas that would be great.
I was also interested in the Poison Spyder BFH with comp stinger but I liked the RockBrawler front bumper because of the winch protection so I was thinking about putting the same style guard on the BFH comp stinger.
As you guys can see I am in need of someone at some point to do some custom fab work so I was curious what my options are as to who is capable of creating these projects?
And finally I’m torn when it comes to rock sliders and that is one of the first things on my list. I was looking at Evo’s rock sliders but they weld on and they are a little lower. Also I was looking at the Poison Spyder version but its pricey however its blot on and is higher clearance however it does not protect the body mounts halfway back. So some opinions on that front would be great as well.
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Post by GOAT on Sept 17, 2013 15:42:51 GMT -4
I am going to have to go back to school to become a jeep owner with money....
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Post by The Garagemahal on Sept 17, 2013 15:43:37 GMT -4
1 you have way over thought this 2 you have a bigger budget then most of us 3 snorkels are a waste of money , if your in that deep to need it , you jeep has already died
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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 15:53:06 GMT -4
1 you have way over thought this 2 you have a bigger budget then most of us 3 snorkels are a waste of money , if your in that deep to need it , you jeep has already died I do spend much to much time thinking about this and This whole plan is over like 10 years so I'm not dropping 100 grand right then and there. But its a dream. you know what they say dream big:)
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Post by Grizzly on Sept 17, 2013 15:53:17 GMT -4
I didn't even know a Jeep can have that much stuff on it. haha 3 words: wheel it stock.....atleast for now. Most of the trails around here (atleast the ones most people do) are stick doable. Oh and I also agree with Scott. If you want to do a little something to your JKU, get a small lift, a good set of mud terrains (33" to 35"), lots of skids and front and rear tow points and your good. It will look great and will get you pretty much anywhere.
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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 16:02:06 GMT -4
I didn't even know a Jeep can have that much stuff on it. haha 3 words: wheel it stock.....atleast for now. Most of the trails around here (atleast the ones most people do) are stick doable. Oh and I also agree with Scott. If you want to do a little something to your JKU, get a small lift, a good set of mud terrains (33" to 35"), lots of skids and front and rear tow points and your good. It will look great and will get you pretty much anywhere. It wont have the lift till maybe the spring depending on a summer job and it being stock doesn't stop me. I already busted up the side steps pretty bad already. The 35s was the idea for when its a daily driver but eventually it will be a trail rig and I can take it out and play. This way it basically turns into a way overbuilt street legal buggy.
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Post by Creepy on Sept 17, 2013 16:07:20 GMT -4
Soooo, what are you taking in school? Big dreams! big money too.
What do you plan to do with this rig? Are you looking to get into rockcrawling? There are very few (none) rigs built like you list in the province. you have described a built magazine truck. The rockcrawling scene around here is tube buggies built on a budget, and they will still spank that heavy-ass rig you dream-built. Check out the Valley Crawl threads getting posted this week, thats the hardcore stuff that will challenge your dream rig. NSJC club events are pretty much geared towards stock vehicles and socializing - so you are going to have this built rig you are bored with, or utterly destroy it trying to keep up to $5000 buggies.
Its fun to dream, but you are going to waste a lot of money at the start of your life building this thing. Buy a house with a shop. Buy a welder. Then learn to use it. Then maybe all along you could have a decently built JK on like 35/37" that is fun to use at most of the local events. If you really want to get into crawling rocks and hardcore wheeling - you need a towrig/trailer, and a rock buggy. And your own shop. you can't pay labor for all that work. You'll have a rig you paid $100000 for, that's worth $20000. wild guessing, but you get my point.
And welcome to the forum! Dig the thread title. lol
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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 16:42:10 GMT -4
Soooo, what are you taking in school? Big dreams! big money too. What do you plan to do with this rig? Are you looking to get into rockcrawling? There are very few (none) rigs built like you list in the province. you have described a built magazine truck. The rockcrawling scene around here is tube buggies built on a budget, and they will still spank that heavy-ass rig you dream-built. Check out the Valley Crawl threads getting posted this week, thats the hardcore stuff that will challenge your dream rig. NSJC club events are pretty much geared towards stock vehicles and socializing - so you are going to have this built rig you are bored with, or utterly destroy it trying to keep up to $5000 buggies. Its fun to dream, but you are going to waste a lot of money at the start of your life building this thing. Buy a house with a shop. Buy a welder. Then learn to use it. Then maybe all along you could have a decently built JK on like 35/37" that is fun to use at most of the local events. If you really want to get into crawling rocks and hardcore wheeling - you need a towrig/trailer, and a rock buggy. And your own shop. you can't pay labor for all that work. You'll have a rig you paid $100000 for, that's worth $20000. wild guessing, but you get my point. And welcome to the forum! Dig the thread title. lol I'm doing a Neuroscience Degree at Dalhousie , med school in the future hopefully. I Have never seen:P the buggies before but that would be a great way to get out on the rocks. Because I am so interested in builds and whatnot I was considering engineering. I'll have to do some research some of these buggies. I was just unaware however i still love the idea of a built to the max jk. haha
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 16:58:06 GMT -4
From one relative newbie to another, that's an impressive list. If you are in school but want to still wheel it, an idea would be to talk to Scott (Scottanche) and Jan (Creepy) about getting some skids and bumpers built. Protect the undercarriage and you can go on most any club trail without fear of destroying your rig. Get some tow points and wheel to your heart's content. You'll also learn which are cost effective upgrades and which are not good value for the money. From my perspective, my rig is also my Daily Drive and it's a challenge to go on a trail that the big rigs make look so easy, but that's the point, it's a challenge and that gives a great sense of accomplishment when I've made it through with my 2" budget lift and 32" AT tires and virtually no articulation. EDIT: If you want more than a 2" budget boost, here's something to consider nsjc.proboards.com/thread/45201/bds-la-kit-discount
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Post by SocialWheeler on Sept 17, 2013 17:04:35 GMT -4
Some serious coin. As Jan said, that list is taken from Jeep porn mags. MDs can afford what you have described, no problem. When you are in med school and you take your handwriting course, be sure to take some spelling and grammar classes too. *scene and seen are homonyms. Welcome to the board! The next Club run is this Sunday. Scott you could do the work easy and retire on the labour charges!
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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 17:24:31 GMT -4
Some serious coin. As Jan said, that list is taken from Jeep porn mags. MDs can afford what you have described, no problem. When you are in med school and you take your handwriting course, be sure to take some spelling and grammar classes too. *scene and seen are homonyms. Welcome to the board! The next Club run is this Sunday. Scott you could do the work easy and retire on the labour charges! That's hilarious I was just typing along not thinking:p I don't know what I was thinking
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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 17:37:49 GMT -4
Just to clarify there is no way this will get built while I am in school. I was going just to make it a little more trail worthy for the time being and as I graduate and life goes on maybe move forward. Its always fun to dream of built rigs regardless. 35s and some odds and ends will make it much more capable and is doable for a reasonable price. All in good time I suppose.
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Post by truxterra on Sept 17, 2013 17:38:53 GMT -4
I don't own a Jeep, but I have to comment on this. Here in NS, you can run 99% of the trails with a mid-sized lift (3-4"), 33's & proper protection (skids, sliders, etc.). If/When you accomplish your list, you will have no fun on the trail because everything will be easy. Len (Roadtripper) has an incredibly capable rig and has posted in the past year(ish) that most runs are more fun in 2WD vs. 4WD and without lockers for him. [Sorry if my memory is not correct Len, I recall a thread on BC4x4, and I believe it was you, but I'm getting senile due to age, kids & wife ] You also have to keep in mind your compadres on trail runs. Most clubs/forums have frequent runs that are stock friendly with "play areas". It is more difficult to organize consistent difficult/hard-core runs. There is a thread here somewhere discussing this fact earlier this year.
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Post by The Toaster on Sept 17, 2013 17:54:38 GMT -4
I don't own a Jeep, but I have to comment on this. Here in NS, you can run 99% of the trails with a mid-sized lift (3-4"), 33's & proper protection (skids, sliders, etc.). If/When you accomplish your list, you will have no fun on the trail because everything will be easy. Len (Roadtripper) has an incredibly capable rig and has posted in the past year(ish) that most runs are more fun in 2WD vs. 4WD and without lockers for him. [Sorry if my memory is not correct Len, I recall a thread on BC4x4, and I believe it was you, but I'm getting senile due to age, kids & wife ;P] You also have to keep in mind your compadres on trail runs. Most clubs/forums have frequent runs that are stock friendly with "play areas". It is more difficult to organize consistent difficult/hard-core runs. There is a thread here somewhere discussing this fact earlier this year. I haven't been around on a lot of trails but I figured there must be challenging terrain to be found. But its true the main goal is to have a blast on the trails:)!
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Post by The Garagemahal on Sept 17, 2013 18:24:36 GMT -4
Scott you could do the work easy and retire on the labour charges! Yup I sure could ! I could just work for doc here , full time in the Garagemahal , and quit my day job My little $5000 TJ showed up a few rigs that were built just the way your dreaming , My $5000 smile was way bigger then their $50,000 frown Moral of the story : building right and throwing money at it , are not the same
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