Post by C.B.RENEGADE on Aug 27, 2015 19:08:54 GMT -4
I got some pretty crazy death wobble in my WJ from a sticky front brake caliper, I'm sure you would have noticed a hot front wheel by now if that was the case tho, before that I had DW from a bad upper trac bar bushing and I kind of recall someone mentioning something about having to swap out the 12mm trac bar bolts for 1/2" bolts, maybe your trac bar bracket bolt holes are worn?
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This weekend I plan on getting at the steering box to eliminate any play what so ever and I have already upgraded the lower track bar bolt to 1/2". I might as well upgrade the upper end of the track bar to 1/2" as well. I just put new calipers and rotors on all 4 corners for inspection a couple a months ago, no sticky calipers at the moment.
Ok I am looking for some direction... I have been working toward a solution to my death wobble now since April. To date a small recap is that I have replaced every joint bearing and bushing on the front of the jeep. Ever since I put in the 2" BB I had experienced DW at around 60km/h (only when hitting an expansion joint or a pothole). I bought new rims and tires and still had the same issue at the 60km/h. I purchased new adjustable lower control arms and since I put them in and had another alignment I can now get up to 85km/h before I hit DW. I recently have read on line where a second steering stabilizer has helped people. I fully understand that this is just masking the problem and not a solution but I tried it to see if it would help my situation. Here is what I built...
I mounted the second SS high on the track bar to lower on the drag link.
This additional SS has allowed me to drive the jeep without experiencing DW.
What does this point at that I should be looking into for replacing? I know this is just a temp band-aid fix for now. I have thrown a lot of money at this thing over the last 6 months and need some direction into what to try next.
I can't remember if you did or not, but have you drilled out your track bar mounts to 1/2"? Both ends on mine had a bit of play with the stock bolts, and after drilling them out, they are nice and tight now.
I was getting some DW between 70-80, and it was a mix of my tires, the track bar being loose, and a wheel bearing/hub going bad. When I put my rear tires on the front, and changed the hub, the DW went away. I also don't have a SS on mine either. Well I do, but it's blown and not doing anything.
What's your toe set at? I'm at about an 1/8" in, but a buddy that use to do alignments said that he had to adjust some Jeeps (and other rigs) to have a bit of toe out to get rid of DW.
Derek and Creepy, yes I do have both ends of the track bar drilled to 1/2" and als plated the lower end with 3/16" plate to make sure there was no oblonging of the bolt hole. When I first got the jeep it had a ton of play in the steering box so I adjusted it down to take out any play. It has no slop n it now and still return to Center without bind. Not sure how to check the sector shaft or how much play is tolerable. Alignment is great and I have tried quite a few different caster settings from 4.5 degrees all the way out to 8 degrees. It is back to 7 degrees since this is the preferred setting. Also have tried 1/16" all the way out to 3/16" of toe in and no change.
I will check out the steering box some more and see if I can get my hands on another with a good sector shaft as well.
Thx for taking a look into it for me.
PS... The Leafs sticker went on after the DW issues. Since it couldn't get any worse I said why not add the sticker lol!
The next time you have it at coffee night or on a run. We need to put 20 eyes on it, to see if anyone sees something moving or something. . It's just got to be something stupid that is getting over look. It's got to be.
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Post by badwithcomputer on Oct 21, 2015 21:12:08 GMT -4
Look at creepy doing the sports. well done my friend!
saw your Jeep going the other day Aaron, looks ok. needs more walmart, less off highway. Just kidding, I'm a really big fan of the black on silver. I think had I gone the Grand route I'd still be wheeling to this day. Comfort and capability. I'd imagine it holds the cabin farts a lot better than our old TJ's too.
Thx Brandon! I now have it almost the way I want it. Ran Horse Pasture on Sunday and it walked thru there just fine. That was my first good test with the flex to make sure it wouldn't hit in the front or back. I have been enjoying the extra room as well.
Thanks Larry... Cutting the front and rear fenders made a huge difference for clearance with the 32's. Had the odd rub underneath from the gas tank skid and the transmission skid but have to start picking better lines. It's different than driving a tummy tucked TJ with 33's